Thursday 4 April, I was on the late night show “Pauw en Witteman“, not alone of course, other guests included Mart Smeets (a sportswriter) and Jan Kees de Jager (ex-minister of Finance). Michiel Joosse, Daphne Karreman, Roelof de Vries and Joao Freire helped me with all the technology. The whole show, Just my part.pauw en witteman